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Marley morals & the Noose Crew Law…

For reference: Im proud to inform you that I have been listening to the works of MC SHAN & MARLEY MARL since August 1987, and even though we normally stay a long way away from this type of ‘beef’ crap, all the small-talk is windin me up, you dig what im saying ?

An open letter to Shawn Moltke, Marlon Williams and the rest of the hater-nation actually enjoying this crud out there. Jesus, yer a bunch of grown-ass men, cant we all just get along? Why is it fashionable or even necessary to create these kinda rants, this form of ‘beef’. Beef my arse. Shame on you  Shawn. This is garbage, this is pompous, this is self-glorification of the highest order, and from where im sittin, its ugly, and none of ye’ even have a release to promote; Black Gus, you get a late pass on that.

These videos are not a good example of how technology should be harnassed, these are signs of adults acting like a bunch of children. Kids would do things in a higher-res and set cams on a shelf for a start !

Long after the glory days of the Juice Crews achievements and successes, Marley remained a progressive guy that recognised the importance of furthering himself. He continued his career in music production after his legendary Rap Attack performances behind the wheels on WBLS with Mr Magic, the Future Flavas shows, the nutty amount of remixes and productions he has created over the years and kept on pushing himself even in the face of illness, and tbh, good on him.

Kane is a great example of getting older and still enjoying the lime-light, he was wise enough to utilise what talent he’d been blessed with. Kane aint been young for a minute, and you KNOW that Kane destroys a stage when he performs, that is a perfect example of giving the audience/ consumer what they want. Shan didnt do that. I saw Shan perform at a PUMA launch a few years ago with Kane and Doug E Fresh in London, and the difference between the 2 Juice Crew members was like watching a professional and an amateur, like Shan hadnt held a mic in front of an audience before that.

Marley furthered himself by continuing his career in broadcasting, he can currently be heard on WBLS on two seperate slots, on the Midday Mix with Marley Marl and again on drive-time, and of course he still drops the Golden Era Radio show with Shante on a Friday night. As if that wasnt enough, of course, he’s been working on production of a DVD called The Vapors for a while now [when yer ready Mr Williams, take yer time there slow-poke], not forgetting his ability to create interest around unreleased gems from the back cat by working with good folk like DWG and Roots Forward. Again, Marleys morals come into question with a supposed unreleased track from 88 which was released recently by Canadian imprint Roots Forward. I dont care what anyone tells ye, that record was NOT produced in 1988, the lyrics may have been written back then but cmon sons, yeh I said it…

And furthermore…


Alotta these cats are enjoying fame from their musical heritage but in business terms, progression is the key to success, yeh of course its great to look back, maybe make a buck or two on the side, but the most important issue is going forward, and not letting the past keep you there. Shan did not stay current, even to a throwback/ younger crowd.

Marley is like any producer from any form of music, every genre has the artists that come to the table with ideas, and its the engineers / producers that bring those ideas to life. Shan may have brought the concepts and ideas, but Marley gave them colour and definition, Shan hasnt truly comprehended that formula IMO. So feckin what if Aaron Fuchs brought a copy of Impeach the President to the studio that time…

Personally, I think Shan wants to be held in higher esteem, but this kinda school-yard shit is the last thing that is gonna offer him a new found respect, no one likes a tell-tale. Its a shame that Marley has to call out Shan on his addictions, its a shame we’ll never see a reunion, its a shame that yall are hanging yourselves collectively, as the relationships between the members have become ruinous in the scheme of things.

Remembering that Shan had records with his name on em released on NIA and MCA in 1985, as I see it, its real simple. The Juice Crew artists didnt sign any contracts during those embryonic stages cos, well, nobody was signing contracts. They wanted fame, and they were already gettin round the way fame at that point. It took a while for people to catch on to the importance of signing contracts I think. At the very start, its a bet that, as Marley explains, they just wanted success, share some of the light that was shining their direction. They wouldve got paid well off tours and shows et cetera but that only kept them sweet in the short-term.

Okay, Marley MUST HAVE known about credit at that point, and surely thats the rub, Marley chose not be transparent in terms of the business relations and the contractual minutia, or in the good faith element of it all… Instead of sharing the information with Shan and therefore sharing the royalties down the line, he as he says, shares the small percentage of the ASCAPs and according to the  ‘All-Star Engineer’ they are for small amounts, because Shan had signed contracts alot later rather than sooner. How manipulative Marley was in the scheme of all this we’ll never know. Its clear that it took Shan a while for him to realise the importance of writing credits, performance and publishing rights.

I can see how Shan is bitter, what im troubled about now is not only what was Masta Ace talkin about in D-Nices video that sparked all this, but how Shan is going to respond, if he’s ‘wrong’ enough to yell at his sleeping baby girl just for giggles and shits, then how the eff is he gonna react to Marlons giggles directly squarely at him. I hope Shan doesnt suffer a heart-attack from ‘his worries about being a good father’ like Marley. Doubt it.

!!NEW English Frank!!

lotta gems in all of franks music, and really good to hear him over more “our” kinda music..

Go See The Documentary

A number of interesting Hip-Hop documentaries have emerged recently, some to be viewed in cinemas, and some destined for the smaller screen. The Tribe Called Quest doc wasnt something we were expecting to gain Nick Broomfield type enlightenment from, but it is one we’d had fancied watching for some time. It appeared a few weeks back, and even though we’ve been sitting on a generously donated avi for that long, we havent had the desire/ opportunity to kick back and watch, so a review of that wee number is in the wings, still.

Ice Cube – LA Raiders Story 


We have reservations regarding the Ice T ‘Art Of Rap’ doc and the Ice Cube ‘Behind The Music’ piece was strictly for the tourists, but we did enjoy the Ice Cube directorial story of the LA Raiders and their influence on him and Rap in general during the rise of gangster Rap. It’s a recognised westside connection, and a fascinating watch for anyone that ever rocked a Raiders sweat/ snap-back, wore Flights, pumped NWA, The D.O.C. et al, even if you werent watching the league standings each season.

We were intrigued however to see some investigative reporting on the career of Big Daddy Kane on US channel TVone, from a programme by the name of Unsung [the same show that has covered subjects Roger Troutman, Bootsy, Donny Hathaway and others. TVone also broadcast a 40minute history of Hip-Hops first novelty Rap act, The Fat Boys. As usual, these shows rely on shed-loads of heavyweight archive imagery and numerous pieces of previously unseen gold school footage; watching them perform Jailhouse Rap on Soul Train, as well as captured scenes from Sal Abbatiellos’ Disco Fever. With some great throwback images and expected appearances of familiar rap-singer talking heads types, the docs are interesting insights into the history of some great, and good, Hip-Hop acts of our time.

NY77# 1 – http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T4U2IN9I
NY77#2 – http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NCEQBWV6

If you havent seen the VH1 rockDocs ‘NY77’, youve missed out on probably the most accurate and detailed film about the embryonic stages of Hip-Hop on film, from the people that created it. Featuring one of the most astutely chosen bunch of talking heads, this still brings home the raw excitement of inner-city life in the ever emulsifying days of 2011; Sweet G, Caz, Disco Wiz, Chris Stein, writer Jimmy Breslin, Richard Hell, Ed Koch, Bam, Jellybean Benitez, Blade TC5, KRS and DJ Hollywood to name a few…

Were still waiting for the DJ Junebug doc to reach British shores, and as much as we are truly passionate about the heady broadcasts of Kool DJ Fred Alerts days on Kiss, we aint holdin out for some incisive Herzog type leanings. While we wait,  trainer tutor Gary Warnett reminded us about a Yo MTV Raps doc, major shouts to Gwar, and his many misanthropic izms..

As well as these, there’s also a mini-doc about the Cella Dwellas [‘If that is your bag’]. A piece on Detroit Hip-Hop and an ‘Untold story of Canadian Hip-Hop’ toboot

Stu Bangas Brutal Beats Vol 1

this first beat is firey hot shit, like you just ate vindaloo in the loo, knomesayn?

“getting pissed at the radio”

we’ve been away, now we’re back at it….thanks for sticking around..been waiting for a little inspiration, which this definately is.

Those Fuckin Kids..

Fish ON!